Tandem exit order

What is the correct exit order from the plane for tandems considering weights,photographers ?

Assuming that they are all jumping the same size of main canopies, put the heaviest tandem out first and put the lightest out last. If the spot gets too long, the last TI should be smart enough to open higher than normal.

Since outside photographers tend to open half as high as tandems, they deserve a better spot. At most DZs, photographers help open the door, and check the spot before exit.

Groups are all similar and fall rate should not vary enough to be a huge concern.  Heads up TIs should turn off of jump run immediately after opening and pull high when needed.  All of this should make exit order by weight inconsequential.

First and foremost, vediots get the best spot.

Second, what does the customer want?  If she wants to go first/last, then why not let her.

Who's turning on the next load? Put them out early if possible so they do not end up having to pull excessively high (however not an excuse to pull low or spiral the guts out of your passenger)

Lastly, if you are concerned with drift of similar groups.  Then just like all other exit orders that assume a head wind jump run, the slow fallers go out first, fast fallers last, as this promotes opening separation.  Although I place this last, with a serious head wind and drastic fall rate differences, it can be an issue.  

On 9/8/2024 at 5:24 AM, riggerrob said:

Assuming that they are all jumping the same size of main canopies, put the heaviest tandem out first and put the lightest out last. If the spot gets too long, the last TI should be smart enough to open higher than normal.

Since outside photographers tend to open half as high as tandems, they deserve a better spot. At most DZs, photographers help open the door, and check the spot before exit.

"put the heaviest tandem out first and put the lightest out last"

If you want to do this, make sure to make an extra long separation. Otherwise, the second light tandem will be blown over (will drift) over the first heavy tandem.

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22 hours ago, skydiverek said:

 

"put the heaviest tandem out first and put the lightest out last"

If you want to do this, make sure to make an extra long separation. Otherwise, the second light tandem will be blown over (will drift) over the first heavy tandem.

 

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I made that suggestion based primarily on avoiding collisions under canopy. If you put the heaviest tandem out first, they will naturally descend fastest and will land first. And if you put the lightest tandem out last, they will naturally descend slower and naturally land last.

The worst case scenario is the lightest tandem spiralling in the landing pattern (below 1,000 feet) in his egotistical rush to land first.

On 10/6/2024 at 9:39 AM, riggerrob said:

I made that suggestion based primarily on avoiding collisions under canopy. If you put the heaviest tandem out first, they will naturally descend fastest and will land first. And if you put the lightest tandem out last, they will naturally descend slower and naturally land last.

The worst case scenario is the lightest tandem spiralling in the landing pattern (below 1,000 feet) in his egotistical rush to land first.

Or he's on a 20 minute rotation to the next load. And has to pee. And hasn't had lunch due to back to back loads all day.

3 hours ago, normiss said:

Or he's on a 20 minute rotation to the next load. And has to pee. And hasn't had lunch due to back to back loads all day.

Blame that on management and manifest.