Phoenix Fly Pants Discontinued

Name: Phoenix Fly Pants
Brand: phoenix fly
Rating: 5 (5 reviews)

mbondvegas · January 24, 2007

I have about 20 jumps on my PF Track Suit (pants and jacket). This combo is excellent. I have logged average fall rates in the low 70's with minimum rates in as low as 57. The forward drive from the pants is outstanding. The suit is nice looking and well constructed but it is constructed of a ZP like material that does not seem suitable for the potential roughness of BASE approaches and landings...but what do I know... I just use them for skydiving..and I love them. These are Lightyears better than the Birdman Pantz!

alw · November 13, 2005

I bought the pants and jacket as part of my wingsuit training program and because I wanted this gear in addition to a wingsuit for those time when more hang time was desirable but a wing suit would be too much. A dozen jumps after picking them up and I'm sold on the concept and design.

The stuff that others have written is on the mark so I won't do a rehash. Other observations might enlarge the envelope for applications. I'm a larger person at 6' 190lbs but there are times when I'd like to jump with the lighter jumpers without the need for them to wear weights. With a little effort, I can get down to them and control fall rate to stay on formation on belly dives. It does require attention to detail on leg position to keep out or the forward motion range.

I really like the lower fall rate without the flapping of a bulky jump suit. Once inflated, it is stable and relatively quiet. I find a range of control that is more than I had exspect and the range of fun which is proportional.

On your back the flapping is palpable - recovery to belly to earth is standard and fairly easy. Controlling the suit is a natural progression for me and simulation of wing suit pull time procedures gives me a feel that is very much what I experienced jumping the Prodigy. All in all a managable progression for expanding my flight envelope.

When dressing for success this is a must have for the skydiving wardrobe. Be prepared for some subterminal openings and water weight loss.

June 5, 2005

I purchased the Phoenix Fly Pants specifically for a Norway trip this summer. I spent last week wearing them skydiving. They are really a good design. Instant inflation, huge tracking speed. My protrack registered an average freefall speed of 80mph, and my freefall time (from 14K) was in the 100 second rage! I was easily able to track the length of a very long runway, and for fun would track out over the highway and pass cars.. of course I was at 10,000 feet and they couldnt see me, but it was quite a fun feeling. The highlight was the clouds that rolled in, and I got to fly in, out, and around them. I did not purchase the jacket, but I easily give the pants a 5 out of 5!

blair700 · March 2, 2005

I was able to make several skydives on my new Phoenix-Fly Pants and Jacket last weekend. I have BASE jumped the suit, but only once so my views here are strictly from the experiences I had skydiving.
The first thing I noticed once out of the plane was the slower fall rate and increased forward speed. It felt almost like flying a wingsuit, I was able to stay in freefall for more than 80 seconds on the first jump from 13000¡¦ and averaged a fall rate of 80 MPH. I then did a couple jumps from 6000¡¦ where I was able to get 40+second delays. Again, the extra freefall time is nice, but the increased forward speed is what I was most impressed with. The body position seems similar to how I fly my GTI, however I had a whole different set of sore muscles to deal with this week! Also, I am 6ft3" and weigh about 200lbs. and am physically, aerodynamically challenged...
I did notice that if you don't present the pants quite right to the relative wind, some lift is lost, however this is momentary as once you find the right body position for your entire body, you can feel the suit fly. At deployment, again, openings felt like wingsuit deployments, very sub-terminal, but of course as soon as you deploy you are ready to fly your canopy as there is nothing to be unzipped etc.
As with the other products Robert Pecnik makes, the research, design, and finish of the products is second to none. I would recommend this product to any skydiver who wants to fly, and any BASE jumper who wants yet another perfect tool for site specific jumps. Lucky for me I'm both.
Thanks
Blair700

derleth · February 6, 2005

I just jumped my new phoenix-fly tracking pants. I also bought the jacket that goes with ... both are awesome. I mostly just jumped the pants, and i loved them. apparently, everyone in the jump plane thought it was funny how my pants "Popped" into action as soon as i hit the wind. the push from my track was incredible, but i had to put my feet on my ass to keep from tipping head-down on throw out.
if you like the fun of tracking, these can make it that much more fun, particularly if you pay the extra money and get the jacket, too!!

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