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Quote: In fact, by not having health insurance, those of us WITH health insurance will have higher costs. For every person who gets hurt and cannot pay, it drives up the cost for those who can and do pay, which is then passed on to insurance, who raise their rates to maintain their profit levels.
Welcome to America, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Welcome to America, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
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Be thankful that you live in "the land of the free and the home of the brave."
A lot of European DZS would not let you jump until you provide proof of medical insurance. I remember specifically a long oncversation with a French manifestor about insurance.
Sorry folks, but medical insurance is one area where Americans sadly lag behind the rest of the industrialized world.
A lot of European DZS would not let you jump until you provide proof of medical insurance. I remember specifically a long oncversation with a French manifestor about insurance.
Sorry folks, but medical insurance is one area where Americans sadly lag behind the rest of the industrialized world.
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I know PLENTY of people who have been hurt and it has barely made a blip on the radar of National News.
And those same people are not out hounding for donations.
I know, but there's no reason to judge her for it. Let her be.
Well, the point was that I believe MOST people here on dz.com and most skydivers would NOT go out on national tv looking for help and making their mistakes publicly known.
The most I have seen are conscience of the fact that mistakes are their own and they deal with them, either on their own or with the help of close friends. They don't go begging to strangers for the mistakes they make. Its called personal responsibility and I have the right to call it on anyone who is lacking in it.
I am not judging her personally. She could be a really nice person. I am balking at her actions.
Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing.
She is taking responsibilty by asking for help! What should she do? Hide in depression the rest of her? She's moving forward, and asked for helped. Fine. Think about that next time you need a favor.
Okay. Thanks for clarifying GTAVercetti.
Okay. Thanks for clarifying GTAVercetti.
QuoteI know, but there's no reason to judge her for it. Let her be.
When people choose to take their story to the mainstream media, whatever there motives might be, there are going to be people who share their opposing opinions in public forums as well.
As long as those opinions fit the forum rules, and are met with no objection from the owner of this website, then all opinions are welcome - even if you or I don't agree with them.
I won't judge her choices, especially since I know very little about the actual facts surrounding the incident. I will however say that to assume that "many here on dropzone.com would have made the same decision" is a bit of a stretch.
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QuoteWe were thrilled to see your television segment and thought it was a positive story for our sport.
That is one of the more baffling statements I've ever read on this site.
I see what you're saying. I passed judgement by saying that about dropzone.com members. Please excuse me. What I was thinking was that it's easy for any of us to say that we wouldn't do something, but until we're faced with the situation, we'll never really know how we'd react.
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There are two types of medical insurance. The first covers things like Dr Visits, check ups, surgery and similar. The second type covers just major injuries, this type is fairly affordable and depending on the company and policy it can cost as little as $50-$100 a month. If you can afford to skydive there is NO REASON you can not afford this major medical coverage. To everyone reading this thread...
If you have no medical insurance please do everyone a favor and get at least major medical insurance. Its a cost of 2-5 jumps a month and it can save you hundreds of thousands of dollars in bills when you get hurt. A simple surgerry to repair a broken leg will cost upwards of $5000 easy. If you can't afford major medical then you really can't afford to skydive.
If you have no medical insurance please do everyone a favor and get at least major medical insurance. Its a cost of 2-5 jumps a month and it can save you hundreds of thousands of dollars in bills when you get hurt. A simple surgerry to repair a broken leg will cost upwards of $5000 easy. If you can't afford major medical then you really can't afford to skydive.
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I will just chime in to say something I have said on dz.com before. All the people that say you should not jump if you don't have insurance really need to understand the realities of our sport. 90% of the people who work full time at dropzones do not have insurance. If they get hurt they are in trouble. But, they still jump and work in the sport they love. There are World Champions that jump everyday that do not have insurance. Do you all think all these people should stop jumping? They will laugh at you if you tell them to.
Shayna did not just break a femur or a tib fib. She almost broke every bone in her body. I am sure her medical bills are outrageous and she needs help paying them. Instead of telling her what she should have done before the accident why not have a heart and help her out now.
I think some people on here that posts negatively deep down are just jealous that she got international attention.
Shayna did not just break a femur or a tib fib. She almost broke every bone in her body. I am sure her medical bills are outrageous and she needs help paying them. Instead of telling her what she should have done before the accident why not have a heart and help her out now.
I think some people on here that posts negatively deep down are just jealous that she got international attention.
The only judgment I have against Shayna is that she was skydiving without insurance.
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey
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Ashtanga, PERFECTLY said!
I watched her interview on the 'TODAY' show with Matt and Katie and it was the 1st time I heard about the accident, I live in the desert, and I was blown away on what she had to say.
It was almost a perfect interview. I couldn't have spoken better. She had nothing to say except good things about the sport and the fact that you want to jump again, RIGHT ON!!!
I had a near death experience BASE jumping just over a year ago and I'm still not completely 100% comfortable in BASE at this point.
The video guy, Rick, great job of staying with her and keeping your head up for your own landing area.
Shayna Richardson, give me a call and I'll be glad to take you up skydiving anytime, well not in the winter time, we are closed. You did a great job during that interview!
THey should do a poll on how many skydivers actually HAS heath insurance. Hell I don't have health insurance.
Shayna, excellent job on still being alive. You used up 1 life on that jump. We all make mistakes, some you can walk away from, some you can't.
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I watched her interview on the 'TODAY' show with Matt and Katie and it was the 1st time I heard about the accident, I live in the desert, and I was blown away on what she had to say.
It was almost a perfect interview. I couldn't have spoken better. She had nothing to say except good things about the sport and the fact that you want to jump again, RIGHT ON!!!
I had a near death experience BASE jumping just over a year ago and I'm still not completely 100% comfortable in BASE at this point.
The video guy, Rick, great job of staying with her and keeping your head up for your own landing area.
Shayna Richardson, give me a call and I'll be glad to take you up skydiving anytime, well not in the winter time, we are closed. You did a great job during that interview!
THey should do a poll on how many skydivers actually HAS heath insurance. Hell I don't have health insurance.
Shayna, excellent job on still being alive. You used up 1 life on that jump. We all make mistakes, some you can walk away from, some you can't.
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QuoteThere are World Champions that jump everyday that do not have insurance. Do you all think all these people should stop jumping? They will laugh at you if you tell them to.
And you know that to be a fact how?
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey
Shayna, reread that. It was great advice.
Thanks Lisa. I thought it was just me.
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