jtnesbitt 0 #251 October 5, 2010 Quote Here you go... just fill in your name and play begins. I love it, but if you're going to make fun of someone you might want to make sure you spell "loser" correctly. "If this post needs to be moderated I would prefer it to be completly removed and not edited and butchered into a disney movie" - DorkZone Hero Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #252 October 5, 2010 QuoteQuestion - how is jumping a camera on a solo (why anyone would want to I dont know but they do) any more distracting than a newer jumper trying to remember which point to turn on a 4 way? Or an 8 way? Seems that anything can be a distraction if you allow it to be... People get distracted on RW jumps just like they do on camera jumps. For example, freefall collisions caused by being so focused on going for a grip that you don't look around at all. Or breaking off low because you're so focused on getting that last point. These are some of the reasons newer jumpers should stick with smaller groups and break off higher. Jumping with big groups requires a lot of awareness that new jumpers tend not to have. We don't have recommended jump numbers for certain size groups... they're usually not needed because these things tend to work themselves out. On the other hand, anyone can go buy a camera helmet and jump it. Saw a guy with under 100 jumps that makes maybe 10 jumps a year landing from a solo with a camera on his head just the other day. There's no rule against it. And it is likely to add another layer of distractions. In the door, thinking about whether or not the camera is turned on instead of counting how long it's been since the previous group left the plane or checking the spot. Having a mal and instead of performing emergency procedures, taking the helmet off for no reason (it happened!), etc, etc, etc. I'd rather see one of these people jump solo if they're going to jump a camera. At least then the camera becomes the only distraction! But add more people, try to get that last point, AND try to get it on camera, and try not to turn your head too much because it makes for bad video... guess how that's gonna end up. Well, probably awesome video is how. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,351 #253 October 5, 2010 Messing with a camera is kind of like performing mid-air rigging. Lots of things to keep in mind at once. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #254 October 5, 2010 QuoteQuestion - how is jumping a camera on a solo (why anyone would want to I dont know but they do) any more distracting than a newer jumper trying to remember which point to turn on a 4 way? Or an 8 way? Seems that anything can be a distraction if you allow it to be... On a solo jump, you don't have anyone else to look at/film as they break off or do something you "wish you had a camera for." On a solo jump, there is still yourself (as evidenced in this guy's video where he's making hand signs in front of the camera lens) that can distract you from seeing other canopy traffic or choosing your outs should you find yourself landing off (as this guy did). On a solo or group jump, it's easy to accidentally smoke it low while trying to get a shot, even if all you're doing is "recording your skydive." Then there are the emergency situations. There is one person who was so distracted by his camera that he spent time cutting away a helmet before going for silver (and he didn't go for the cutaway at all). The second(s) spend losing the helmet could have easily been the difference between a good and very bad day for someone. Yes, anything *can* be a distraction. Why deliberately add a distraction to the skydive when there isn't enough experience to back it up when things go wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,822 #255 October 5, 2010 >Question - how is jumping a camera on a solo (why anyone would want to >I dont know but they do) any more distracting than a newer jumper trying >to remember which point to turn on a 4 way? That can indeed be distracting. But when jumping with three other relatively experienced people, the jumper will not forget to break off; the other jumpers will be leaving at breakoff altitude. He will not have to mess with anything that he can't see; the dirt dive will have trained him for what he has to see. He will not have to do anything he hasn't done before; part of AFF is flying relative to other people (and docking on them.) > Or an 8 way? That might be even more of a distraction. People with (say) 30 jumps may want to postpone 8-ways until they have more jumps. >Seems that anything can be a distraction if you allow it to be... Absolutely. Smart jumpers minimize them at low jump numbers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crashtested 0 #256 October 6, 2010 If you had the time and could cutaway the camera, then the PC would have enough force to llift both your helmet or and your camera and deploy your parachute ... all depending on PC / entanglement / time obviously.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 744 #257 October 6, 2010 On a base jump? I would doubt that.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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