jcbfly 1 #1 August 25, 2006 I just started skydiving and I'm loving it. I've made around 40 jumps in the last month. I've got a problem though. For some reason my right ear won't "pop" completely. The left one sometimes takes hours to clear after a day at the DZ, but the right one has been at least partially "plugged" since July 30th! I tried the old "hold your nose and blow " trick, but that only partially clears the blockage. I went to the doc and she said try decongestants, which I did without any relief. She also suggested I try not jumping till it clears. It doesn't hurt or seem to effect my balance, so I've decided to ignore the "stop jumping" advice for now. The only real annoyance is that I'm slightly hard of hearing in my right ear. Does anyone have advice on this subject? Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #2 August 25, 2006 Does anyone have advice on this subject? Thanks! *** Power Drill?! But seriously....you might want to have it 'looked' at by a E-N-T specialist. I had that kind of thing going on when I started, but just kept jumping anyway. My ear innards stuff is so screwed up NOW that I have to pressurize 10-15 times on the way UP, and 3-4 times under canopy or it feels like my head with explode. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xlh883 0 #3 August 25, 2006 There is a show on Skydive Radio that has a Doctor being interviewed on thgsi subject. He has a lot of good advice on it. You might want to listen to it. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyflyer 0 #4 August 25, 2006 hey I had a problem with my ear also did you have your doctor try flushing your ears with water. this worked for me"Death is more universal than life; everyone dies but not everyone lives." A. Sachs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #5 August 25, 2006 i had this happen to me once, i finally got it clear from using eardrops/flushing it with water. good luck on whatever you do.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcbfly 1 #6 August 25, 2006 I listened to the Skydive Radio show and learned a bunch. I'll try seeing an ENT doc too. Thanks for the good advice, dropzone.com is a great resource for a beginner like me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adventurechick 0 #7 August 25, 2006 I've had a lot of ear trouble... but if it's not popping all the way, I just do hop n' pops! PMS #449 TPM #80 Muff Brother #3860 SCR #14705 Dirty Sanchez #233 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
afraidofheights 0 #8 August 26, 2006 Would ear plugs help? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #9 August 28, 2006 a. Earplugs won't help nor hurt with clearing the ears. Actually, it's great to wear them for noise protection. b. Most docs will recommend you don't jump until it clears, you could present yourself with serious inner ear damage. Go see an ENT that specializes in Aeromedical medicine. ie. a Flight Surgeon would be best. c. Cleaning wax out of the ear canal will not help. Unless your totally freakin plugged with wax, and well......maybe that's why you can't hear! d. No one should ever...ever.... valsalva (ie. pinch nose and blow) on the ride TO altitude. Only valsalva (there are other methods also) when going DOWN.... cheers.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beer 0 #10 August 29, 2006 Which show was it? I checked, but didn't see which one it was. Thanks, Beer Learn to be happy. You can't be there for anybody else in life if you can't learn to be there for yourself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yossarian 0 #11 August 29, 2006 i used to get a very mild feeling of 'swimmers ear' for sometimes days after jumping, but it never hurt, affected balance or anything, only happened 2 or 3 times but hasnt happened for over a year now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anewempire 0 #12 August 30, 2006 Quote d. No one should ever...ever.... valsalva (ie. pinch nose and blow) on the ride TO altitude. Only valsalva (there are other methods also) when going DOWN.... i've never heard this. why? and how do you pop your ears when going to altitude if not "valsalva"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #13 August 30, 2006 QuoteQuote d. No one should ever...ever.... valsalva (ie. pinch nose and blow) on the ride TO altitude. Only valsalva (there are other methods also) when going DOWN.... i've never heard this. why? and how do you pop your ears when going to altitude if not "valsalva"? Trust me; this guy knows what he is talking about. He works at the high altitude (hyperbaric) chamber in Texas. There is no relationship between your ears “popping “from altitude and “swimmers ear”. One is pressure differential on either side of the tympanic membrane, eardrum, and the other is water in the outer ear cannel. To clear “swimmers ear” put a couple of drops of alcohol in you ear and break down the surface tension of the water.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fireemt97 0 #14 August 30, 2006 Exactly what Beerlight said. I have been in a high altitude chamber a few times at Beale AFB. They teach exactly what he was talking about. As far as your left ear taking up to a day to clear, they also say that is normal for some people.SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eule 0 #15 August 30, 2006 QuoteWhich show was it? Skydive Radio show #54. "Conversation with ear, nose, and throat Specialist, Dr. Stuart Selkin." EulePLF does not stand for Please Land on Face. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Revillusion 0 #16 August 30, 2006 You may try a decongestant such as neosynephrine as the physician recommends, but be wary of the side effects such as drowsiness. Be aware also that continued use of short acting agents may lead to a rebound effect whereas the symptoms return shortly after administration and to a higher degree. I would recommend an ENT also, but be aware every physician will recommend "not jumping" as part of practicing defensive medicine. As stated previously, ear plugs and cleaning the wax out of your ears will not effect this condition as they pertain to the external ear, not the middle ear. VIRTUS JUNXIT MORS NON SEPARABIT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #17 August 30, 2006 Thanks Sparky! It's always...sniff...sniff...nice to be appreciated! Buck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #18 August 31, 2006 QuoteQuote d. No one should ever...ever.... valsalva (ie. pinch nose and blow) on the ride TO altitude. Only valsalva (there are other methods also) when going DOWN.... i've never heard this. why? and how do you pop your ears when going to altitude if not "valsalva"? I'll drop a web link at the bottom to explain barotrauma, but basically gases "expand" going to altitude. Why do you fart going to altitude you think? Anyway, there is a small amount of trapped gas in the middle ear space (just behind the eardrums) and as you travel to a reduced pressure, ie. climbing for altitude, the air/gas expands and travels "down" the eustachian tube and escapes typically with no discomfort at all.....automatically. Descent, another story. Pressure increases around you in freefall, pushing IN on your eardrum (ouch), and you say hey, why does my ear hurt? well, it's because your poor eardrum doesn't like to ah, bend. So you ask yourself, if it equalized on ascent, why doesn't it equalize automatically on descent? Cause the opening in the eustachian tube really only "likes" to open to let air escape. You have to force it open typically to push some air UP the tube into the middle ear space thus "equalizing" the between the middle ear and the outside pressure. Hope this answers your question. a link for barotrauma... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barotrauma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #19 August 31, 2006 wtf!, sorry for the boldfaced post guys....... not sure what happened. I'll crawl back into my corner now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OneJumpWally 0 #20 October 28, 2012 I'm having the exact same problem right now lol. It sucks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyingRhenquest 1 #21 October 28, 2012 Try having the doctor check your ear wax and flush it out if you have a build-up. That's probably not the problem, but it doesn't hurt to do that occasionally. The little home kits with the bulb are too underpowered and inaccurate to do much good. You could also try nasal irrigation to flush the gunk out of your sinuses. You can buy a couple of different saline products designed for that purpose. Don't flush them out with tap water though -- three or four people got infected with brain eating amoebas a few years ago after doing that.I'm trying to teach myself how to set things on fire with my mind. Hey... is it hot in here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beerlight 0 #22 October 30, 2012 6 years old advice still stands Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcbfly 1 #23 October 30, 2012 Wow, this is one of the first posts I made on dz.com! It's a little over 6 years later and I'm still jumping. My ear problem simply resolved itself at around 100 jumps and it hasn't been an issue since. I guess my ears just adapted to the skydiving environment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erdnarob 1 #24 October 31, 2012 It looks like you have the Eustace tubes partially blocked up. Those are the connection between the back of the throat and internal ear. When blocked up, you cannot get the balance of pressure between the outside and the inside of the ear. What the doctor said if fine if not changing your awareness while jumping. But a more simple remedy is for you to buy eucaliptus oil in a drugstore. You put some drops in a bowl of boiled water still very hot and breath it for few minutes. Repeat if necessary. Have also some special lubrication drops for ears (no prescription in a drugstore). That will keep your eardrums supple. After a while, the problem should disappear but after a long stay away from jumping, it can show up again. Having a cold or flu makes it worst. Good luck. Learn from others mistakes, you will never live long enough to make them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites