skydivercowboy 0 #1 November 30, 2009 ok... so my best friend is in the navy and he is on leave at home right now... and december 5th i am going skydiving and he wants to come, but he doesnt know if the navy will allow him to skydive... does anyone know if he can???love that rush! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amstalder 0 #2 November 30, 2009 Depends on what he does in the navy, but I always had to ask permission, and I knew guys who got in a good bit of trouble for not submitting the proper paperwork. But if it's just a tandem, and doesnt brag about or decide to take up the sport, he'll most likely be fine. And if he doesnt get hurt/killed (Shit can happen, which is why there are waivers galore) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #3 November 30, 2009 Of course he can. The question is may he? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tumbler 0 #4 November 30, 2009 It is always better to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deisel 37 #5 November 30, 2009 Well from the perspective of a school trained USMC safety officer the answer is yes. There are no rules or regulations that prohibit skydiving by armed forces personnel. Some commands may have a diierent view but the bottom line is that the DOD allows it. But keep in mind that there are requirements above what USPA requires. Things like hard shell helmets and closed toe shoes are on the menu. DThe brave may not live forever, but the timid never live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpw2o05 0 #6 November 30, 2009 Yeah there's nothing that says he can't skydive. I have learned to skydive and made all my jumps while in the Navy. Everyone in my commands knows I skydive as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #7 November 30, 2009 Quote It is always better easier to beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission... Begging is never better. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivercowboy 0 #8 November 30, 2009 so he shouldnt have to ask for permission or anything right?love that rush! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullin82 0 #9 November 30, 2009 asking permission is the forst step for getting denyed lol. but seriously someone covored it already, unless his command stats that he HAS ro have permission then he should be ok. I had a Team leader that competed in a local rodeo until he fractured his leg 3 times, then our command said NO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivercowboy 0 #10 November 30, 2009 thank yall for the help.love that rush! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tolgak 0 #11 November 30, 2009 From what I know about my own research and skydivers in ROTC at my school, there is an agreement you sign regarding high-risk activities that basically says you accept all repercussions, and may lose some of your insurance benefits if you get hurt.Dropzones are terrible places for inspiration. What does one think when one looks up for a sign only to see a bunch of people falling? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crotalus01 0 #12 November 30, 2009 I jump with a lot of active duty military, they have never said it was a problem. In fact, I believe all branches of the military have skydiving competition teams (not sure about Coast Guard). As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deisel 37 #13 November 30, 2009 ROTC and active duty have different rules (I was a ROTC instructor also). The university/command can impose many more restrictions on students that simply dont apply to active duty folks. And for the record - no one on active duty can sign away any 'rights' at any time. As long as you are following the rules you are covered no matter what happens.The brave may not live forever, but the timid never live at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tolgak 0 #14 November 30, 2009 QuoteROTC and active duty have different rules (I was a ROTC instructor also). The university/command can impose many more restrictions on students that simply dont apply to active duty folks. And for the record - no one on active duty can sign away any 'rights' at any time. As long as you are following the rules you are covered no matter what happens. These people were telling me that it was something that goes on even after you commission. I'm glad to hear I am wrong, as I'm working on joining in the near future.Dropzones are terrible places for inspiration. What does one think when one looks up for a sign only to see a bunch of people falling? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aresye 0 #15 November 30, 2009 As a SAR swimmer, I've had to get around a few more loops than usual. Aviation medicine, and the entire community don't like high-end trained people like me to participate in high-risk recreational activities. On the bottom line, if he's in a regular, non-specialized rate, then I don't see him facing any trouble, even if he gets hurt, unless the proper safety precautions weren't followed, such as an AAD, hard helmet, shoes, etc. One of the first things I did at my command was tell them I'm a licensed skydiver. I provided copies of my A-license progression card, my A and B license cards, photocopies of logbook entries documenting night jump training and water training, and copies of my reserve packing card and canopy information. With that, I also submitted a completed copy of the skydiving section found in CNATRAINST 3058.1, which is basically a risk-assessment question sheet. So far, no issues. I'm one of the first guys at my command to be an outspoken skydiver, and I jump as safely as I can so I can establish a good reputation for future skydivers.Skydiving: You either learn from other's mistakes, or they'll learn from yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpw2o05 0 #16 December 1, 2009 sar swimmers are so gay lol jk ben Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SARLDO 0 #17 December 1, 2009 Quote sar swimmers are so gay lol jk ben Bet ya wouldn't say that at night, bobbing like a cork in the north atlantic, in February. "Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest" ~Samuel Clemens MB#4300 Dudeist Skydiver #68 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SARLDO 0 #18 December 1, 2009 Quoteok... so my best friend is in the navy and he is on leave at home right now... and december 5th i am going skydiving and he wants to come, but he doesnt know if the navy will allow him to skydive... does anyone know if he can??? The answer is yes he can. Provided the jump is made within the rules/regs of the FAA/USPA, he is good to go. OTOH - strap on a WW II rig and throw yourself's out of a freinds Cessna with no training and there's a problem if he gets hurt = Not in the line of duty = he pays for it ($)."Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest" ~Samuel Clemens MB#4300 Dudeist Skydiver #68 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aresye 0 #19 December 1, 2009 Quote Quote sar swimmers are so gay lol jk ben Bet ya wouldn't say that at night, bobbing like a cork in the north atlantic, in February. Yeah JP, watch me come rescue you now, lol!Skydiving: You either learn from other's mistakes, or they'll learn from yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjumper 25 #20 December 1, 2009 I did my first 1000 (all sport jumps) while active duty. The military has way more problems with injuries for sports they support than skydiving. (MNC/USN/RET) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SARLDO 0 #21 December 1, 2009 QuoteI did my first 1000 (all sport jumps) while active duty. The military has way more problems with injuries for sports they support than skydiving. (MNC/USN/RET) So true... We lose (limited duty status) more people to softball than every other sport combined. When I was an umpire years ago, we had to institute a no-slide rule per the base C.O. in order to reduce the number of injuries. People still found a way to break themselves."Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest" ~Samuel Clemens MB#4300 Dudeist Skydiver #68 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
747tech 0 #22 January 29, 2010 25 years ago I started jumping while in the navy and had no problems. There was even a jump club on base. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #23 January 29, 2010 QuoteI did my first 1000 (all sport jumps) while active duty. The military has way more problems with injuries for sports they support than skydiving. (MNC/USN/RET) When I ran a sport jumping program for the British Army they told me that under no circumstances were the sqaddies allowed to play rugby while in camp. "They are allowed to toss the ball, but not to scrimmage." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airathanas 0 #24 January 29, 2010 Hal- I've taken active duty on tandems while they were on leave. Bring 'em by!http://3ringnecklace.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #25 January 29, 2010 We had a club on base in the Corps too back in '75. But I'd still have your friend check first. The Commander Officer of any military unit is totally responsible for everyone under his command, and they can, and sometimes do ban certain off duty activities like skydiving. Just like they can put certain troublesome bars or rip-off jewelery businesses off limits. With skydiving this usually follows a bad accident or a death, and is usually short lived, but if you get stuck with a CO who washed out of jump school earlier in their career there might have an issue. I've heard of COs like that and they had bad attitudes towards jumping. Now if we could just get the entire military to put Skyride off limits . . . NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites