falxori

Yeah Then Gaza Strip has more populated areas and less populated areas. As you said, a simple google earth view will show these claims of being the most densely populated in the world, are far from being true. But, if you repeat something enough time... "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

Actually, I don't think that's the case. they've proved that they can maintain a ceasefire when they want to. They followed the recent 72 hour cease fire until 4 hours before it was scheduled to end. But if you're right, it's much worse. it means there is no point in signing any agreement with Hamas leaders if their people continue to shoot at Israel... "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

Ok, let's say Iron Dome is ~90% effective (not including mortar shells and short distance rockets where it's less effective. If someone was shooting at your family and had only 10% of hitting them, would you allow them to continue? It's great that you're suggesting Israelis take these chances, would you accept it for your own family? Your analogy is flawed. you're comparing burglaries (which you can easily recover from) to murder (which is not so easy to recover from) Completely agree. But Israel is doing just that. you're immune system will destroy a cell if the pathogen "hides" in a civilian cell, much like cancer treatment will harm nearby cells to kill the cancer. If Israel went all out (and I can think of several countries that would go all out to stop missile attacks), Gaza would be flat. Luckily, this is not the case. Israel is trying to take out the threat while avoiding hurting civilians. not an easy task when they are used as human shields... "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

Well, you can force Israel to share it's Iron Dome defense system with Hamas, like the UN suggested... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/1/un-condemns-israel-us-not-sharing-iron-dome-hamas/ "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

Ok then, let's look at a few "independent sources" that do more than just "say". They also "show" Full story with a video on how Hamas set up and fired rockets right next to hotels and apartments: http://www.ndtv.com/...fires-rockets-571033 A finnish reporter saying Rockets are fired from right next to Gaza's main hospital (the same one Hamas leaders are hiding in...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu-e5qWXx-k Italian journalist Gabriele Barbati said he was able to speak freely about witnessing a Hamas misfire that killed nine children at the Shati camp, confirming the Israel Defense Forces version of events, but only after leaving Gaza, “far from Hamas retaliation.”" http://www.algemeiner.com/...d-children-in-shati/ And if that's not enough for you, there are also the videos where Hamas admit it themselves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuNQvPh8XKA Need more proof? As usual, your hatred towards Israel blinds you to the fact that Hamas is the worst enemy of the Palestinian people you care about so much... "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

I think it's more of a teritorial dispute, rather than a religious conflict. At least (mostly) on the Israeli side. Some do try to turn it into a religious war though... "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

A few notes... Iron dome is indeed impressive but it's far from perfect so when the sirens go off, you still have 10-15 seconds to run for cover. If anything, it allows Israel to react with less force. Can you imagine the response if hundreds of missiles actually landed on Israeli cities (as they target cities and civilians) causing hundreds of deaths? Saying Israel shouldn't respond and let Hamas fire freely because it has invested in shelters, sirens and Iron Dome doesn't make sense. Ok, I agree. how exactly do you do that? Good idea in theory but: a) Hamas will not run out of missiles that quickly as it's being supplied by Iran and others (and they also manufacture the basic ones themselves) b) an Iron Dome intercepter missile is way more expensive than the Hamas rockets. c) not responding sends the wrong message. they will keep trying (e.g. the array of terror tunnels crossing into Israel) But this is exactly what Israel is saying. Gaza is not a democracy. While Hamas won the elections to Parliment, they overthrew the PA by force. If you try to resist them, you'll get executed. Not argueing that military action is not the best option. No one in Israel wanted to go into Gaza. People keep saying what Israel shouldn't do. I'll be happy to hear suggestions on what Israel SHOULD do. "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

I knew you would bring up this single picture again (as you always do when this topic is raised) While I agree that that was a poor activity for a school field trip, your interpretation of it is completely off. If this is the best you can find Vs. a well documented array of hateful official school textbooks and TV shows, it kind of makes my point. Again, I grew up in Israel and I can name many flaws of the Israeli education system. teaching children to hate and kill was definitely not one of them. "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

Absolutely false. I grew up in Israel and I was not "taught to hate Palestinians", not even close to it. While the Israeli education system focuses more on the Israeli narrative there is nothing like what you see in official Palestinian text books and children TV shows case in point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21dIRCMfnHs "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

No, not really, your analogy ignores one simple point. Israel sends it's troops to fight while the civilians stay in the back. Hamas put their civilians (often forcing them) in the front and is shooting from behind them. So in your analogy, if the brother tries to hit you, then yes, you are a legitimate target for him, if he's trying to hit your kid who is behind (not in front of) you, then no, he's just another terrorist like his brother. I even found a nice illustration to show the difference... "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

Yes, and you would feel aweful about it and you will be mad as hell that you were put in this no win situation. but if the choice is between risking that kid or risking your own kid who will be shot if you don't remove the threat, you would have made the right choice "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

Ok, that's fair. Sounds like you would do whatever you can to not hit the kid, including warning both of them, firing a few warning shots, etc. which is exactly what Israel has been trying to do. But, if after all these warnings, I still chose to keep shooting and using my kid as a human shield, you have every right to protect your family, as long as you're doing your best not to hit the kid (as much as possible) Again, Israel has no desire to see civilians die. it doesn't align with our values and it definitely doesn't serve any purpose for us. The only ones that benefit from civilian deaths are Hamas "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

Oh really, so what would you do if I shoot at your family while hiding behind my kid? would you just stand there and hope I keep missing or will you try to neutralize me to protect your family, even if you may unintentionally hit my kid? "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

No. Civilians have been killed and that is horrible and definitely not what Israel wants. I'm saying that most civilians were killed because of Hamas cowardly tactics of putting them next to rocket launchers. I'm also saying that dead civilians are exactly what Hamas wants and that they often "manufacture" and stage events to serve their media campaign (which is sadly, working) Hamas is the worst thing that happened to Gaza "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."

Yeah, happens all the time. They also used images from horor movies http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/15/hamas-uses-horror-movie-still-of-headless-girl-in-miniskirt-to-depict-gaza-casualties-on-social-media-warning-graphic-video/ Just google "Pallywood" and you can see some interesting productions where dead people get up and do another take. "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero."