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one more Icon malfunction
carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
at least it helps the reserve container to open in case of total malfunction ! not a surprise in fact, Icon rig is a bad copy of Atom rig, actually Aerodyne is a bad copy cat machine of everything on the market -
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carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
so if I understand well, in 2008 Aerodyne was forced by French Parachute Federation to publish the service bulletin SB210108 for an alternative cutter location above reserve PC, then Aerodyne has been complaining for 12 years the French Parachute Federation to revoke the "French" placement of the cutter pretending there is no safety reason regarding improvement of safety to change the "normal positionning of the cutter below the reserve PC". French Parachute Federation finally agreed to do so in october 2020, before French Civilian Aviation Agency made mandatory in november 2021 the change for cutter placement above reserve PC. And finally Aerodyne in january 2022, highly recommend the cutter placement above reserve PC after discriminating for 12 years the French position. The least we can say is that Aerodyne does not know its own equipment, will you trust such a manufacturer ? what's next ? -
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carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
what was not in my loft and I can see once it is on the ground, it is the French parachute sheet of paper what was probably folded under a closing flap , I guess -
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carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
I have not done it since it is not my job,but I know eric Fradet, representative of the French safety delegate, did it, I heard that they met at the French equivalent of the FAA, together carried out manual and pyrotechnic opening tests validated and packed by Aerodyne and the Icon rig failed 50% of the time on numerous tests. I understand that the next step will be to ground the small Icon rigs since they do not work correctly by manual deployment....sorry to say, it is why I like to hear about the ones who stay silent... -
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carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
the name of the experienced person who experimented a delay on her Icon after cutaway is Christine Malnis French national RW team member, I would also hear from Aerodyne their point of view at least about the cutter location change -
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carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
I know at least, it did happen to a French experienced competitor who complained about having a delay after cutaway with an Icon I1 -
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carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
not either Skyhook or Aeromard for both Icon I2 DOM 05/2020 -
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carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
believe it or not, same loft but different rig , same result... Icon I2 DOM 05-2020 n°21323.mp4 -
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carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
you are correct, there are two separate issues : 1) all Icon any sizes do not work properly with cutter location underneath the reserve pilot chute the French Bulletin fix that 2) some Icon small sizes (specially Icon I1, I2, I3) do not work properly by manual activation it will be a subject to be treated in the coming weeks (months) by Eric Fradet , the technician in charge of gear equipment , the French FAA and the manufacturer and to pchapman : Yes from 2008 up to 2020 it was mandatory in France on Icon rigs to have the cutter location underneath Reserve pilot chute, end of 2020 under request of Aerodyne , French Federation did accept to change that, it looks it was a mistake : https://www.ffp.asso.fr/cs-198-2020-position-du-sectionneur-sur-les-sac-harnais-icon/ -
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carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
it looks what there was so many Icon reserve malfunction found on the ground, what French Civilian Agency is going to ground the majority of Icon in France and will ask FAA to do the same...we do not just anymore speak about bashing like some stupid folks have claimed we do -
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carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
in fact, it is only in France what rigging issues are directed to someone else than manufacturers, in the states and rest of the world, if you have a rigging problem FAA send you to the manufacturer whatever it is, so it never comes up, previous case with total malfunction was with the Vector SE in january, but at the end there was a real issue with Vector SE, we can believe it will be the same with Icon rigs, specially the small ones -
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carrier louis paul replied to carrier louis paul's topic in Gear and Rigging
Icon I2 smart LPV 120 reserve loop correct length, if there was a video it is because we suspected this type of rig does not open correctly -
no comment VID-20211117-WA0000 (2).mp4
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I personnally used the regular method of bagging, and the opening shock was so severe what it happened in one second and was transmitted to my body near the junction of the vertical and thoracic spin, a forward flexion of my head and neck occured and had considerable biomecanical signifiance, the head-neck injuries brought me to wear a neck brace at all times for 14 months, while the Icon parachute harness induces a compression of the lombar and thoracic spins which affected the cervical and thoracic spins so much , mild cranio-cerebral trauma : Glasgow score greater than 13 due to a force directly applied to the head transmitted to the brain. The "whiplash" the brain stumbles forward, then it was back against the cranium brought me : unconsiousness and post-trauatic amnesia during 24 hours, a transient focal neurological deficite and altered mental state ll the time of the accident with dizziness and disorientation, thanks Aerodyne
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it definetly does not work properly.... icon_saumur_plantin_(2).mp4