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Bill Mitchell's ticket.. Anyone at CooperCon this year, if you have a chance could you upload a clear flat front shot of Bill's Ticket to the DZ for posterity. Also, I'd like to compare it to Coopers ticket.

302- part 18-DB pg 5477 part 66 - DB Pg 28201 302-Part 24- DB pg -4111 part-66-DB pg-28123 The ticket did not come under the control of the Portland office even though it was known by 7pm passenger Dan Cooper was the hijacker.

Thanks G... in light of the physical evidence of the Ticket leaving Portland and the agency not having control of the Ticket for more than a week, is what is being claimed in Part 66 as the response by the Portland field office on the night of the event puffery? In all fairness, all of us are guilty a time or two or more of some puffery to cove an occupational oversight, this is purely conjecture and 100% Monday morning quarterback thinking on my part.

The initial justification was a combination of things, presumed 8:11 jump time, radar at 8:11, recording of the sound of the pressure bump, comments of - lights of Portland on the horizon, last point of contact at 8:05, estimate of oscillations a few minutes after last contact, wind direction and speed, estimates of canopy drift within pull ranges. I think the search was based on sound judgment at the time. Part of this is also show: this event captivated an audience and the response is to signal an overwhelming effort to help reinforce a low perception of success and reinforce deterrence. Deterrence is the primary objective of law. Investigation is secondary - the reactive element of the law when deterrence has failed. Prosecution/sentencing are tertiary and used to restore deterrence by reinforcing consequences and signaling a low probability of success to would be criminals. The search whether sound or not was necessary.

302- part 18-DB pg 5477 part 66 - DB Pg 28201 302-Part 24- DB pg -4111 part-66-DB pg-28123 The ticket did not come under the control of the Portland office even though it was known by 7pm passenger Dan Cooper was the hijacker.

Looked back through 302 notes and the 302's a bit, the tie was originally looked at for bodily fluids and I did not come across anything mentioning an evaluation of the ransom for bodily fluids when found, just fingerprints. So my vague recall can be scratched out. The four Cups were from Part 41 - pdf pg 27, the DB pg is - 11395

Unknown, but highly likley. Ref 302 pg DB-Cooper-11395 I'll take a glance for serology later.

Cringe – G, My 5 year old imagination understood what you were alluding too and the potential outcome on the ransom. Yes, if that was indeed the fate of Cooper then contamination of the ransom by bodily fluids clearly fits under the bell curve of possibilities. In no way did I think you were making this up. I had no awareness of this till you brought it up and genuinely wanted to know how deep Tom and Alan had gone into this. I have not committed to memory how the 302's described looking into the ransom for Bodily fluids, but I'm fairly sure I read the Agency had looked at the ransom for that. I'll give the 302's a glance latter this week, unless your have a ref handy.

You have his number, but my best guess is that in his not addressing it, he has addressed it. If there was some solid science to this then he would have told us and this would be our known already.

Robert – I appreciate your honesty, and I respect deeply that you are open enough to say this. I have come to this moment of letting go of my own candidate once, so we share in the blessing of having earned a cynicism towards all candidates.

Speaking of sticking to facts, it is a matter of fact. Kenny Christiansen was not Cooper.

This is the first I've head of this, but you've been in the Vortex since the beginning so can you put more context behind this... Was it a cursory evaluation or something more in-depth? My bias says the evidence of this would be so obscure and finessed to as to be presently indeterminate given the decomposed state of the bills and sample size. However, Tom has displayed in the past a slide on the bills orientation /misalignment within the packets. Is the alignment a sign or impact or settlement?

I don't make the headings for the DZ you should take it up with them, but I did attribute those words to me.. "Remember when I said:" you should know how to follow the link.

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To place an LZ in Lake Oswego you have to do more than work up distance alone, Edwards needs to overcome the comment - the lights of Portland were on the horizon. That comment as a visual reference needs to be discredited or reinterpreted to even consider an LZ in that area.