Attacks on women online soaring

28 minutes ago, billvon said:

And yet you were fine with your unknown risk caused by switching providers midstream.

The risks for the modern COVID vaccination are the same as the risks for any other vaccination.  Smaller, actually, since in practice it has been safer than any other vaccine offered over the past 128 years or so.  Vaccination also confers immunity to the fetus through acquired immunity, a very well understood phenomenon.  And doctors knew this.

Did you ask if your wife's polio vaccination would present a risk to the child?

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/japan/japan-naoki-hyakuta-remarks-conservative-party-b2644795.html

On medical treatment and women. Japan conservative floated the idea of mandatory hysterectomies for women over 30!

7 hours ago, base698 said:

No books are not Reddit memes.  Yes reading is a better way to get informed on the issues than media and social media.

Sure they are - let me break it down for you.

the pipeline goes something like this: tweet/reddit post -> minor blog or podcast "some people are saying" -> blog with more reach reports on "blog x reported today that people are saying" -> authors write books about it as if it is factual. Before these things would be fact checked, today in the post truth environment no-one cares.

6 minutes ago, nigel99 said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/japan/japan-naoki-hyakuta-remarks-conservative-party-b2644795.html

On medical treatment and women. Japan conservative floated the idea of mandatory hysterectomies for women over 30!

Russia is going to make promoting child free living illegal.

I am just thankful that Margaret Atwood left Canada somewhat normal....

1 hour ago, nigel99 said:

The autism argument is alive and well. Although I recently came across a new twist- there’s a new fad of mothers here giving toddlers THC as an alternative to vaccines (THC not CBD)

Better than Ivermectin.

5 hours ago, base698 said:

Then what is your explanation why vaccine use (not counting covid) has plummeted?

vaccine use has plummeted because most/many/majority of people now have been vaccinated and have sufficient immunity to similar viruses, much like people that get the flu shot every year.  I get surprisingly few vaccinations BECAUSE I get vaccinations.

Thanks for changing the subject tho.... nice try at a diversion.  try again, go ahead and tell me about Hillary's emails while you try and change the definition of a vaccine with zero medical authority backing you up.

3 hours ago, billvon said:

I am reminded about a conservative author who wrote a book called "Stolen Youth" about how "woke" was stealing the youth of today's children.  It was a book full of memes and anecdotes.  

During an interview, the reporter asked her to define "woke."  She couldn't do it.

But she has a BOOK so she's an expert!  Right?

She should not feel alone - when Desanits and his attorneys went to court, they could not define woke either.  Ask Winsor, he has a clear as mud definition fo woke.... oh wait, sorry, no he doesn't

7 hours ago, billvon said:

As you know, prenatal care is the #1 determinant of the health of a newborn baby.

What happens to a fetus if you switch providers halfway through?  Did you do any research?  How many have done that?  How many babies have been born after such a decision?  How many are healthy?  Where are the numbers published?  Have you reviewed the numbers before you decided to take a potentially dangerous step in the care of an unborn child?

Or is that different?

As to the original question:

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February 6, 2024
Neonatal Outcomes After COVID-19 Vaccination in Pregnancy
Mikael Norman, MD, PhD1,2; Maria C. Magnus, PhD3; Jonas Söderling, PhD4; et alPetur B. Juliusson, MD, PhD5,6,7; Lars Navér, MD, PhD1,2; Anne K. Örtqvist, MD, PhD4,8; Siri Håberg, MD, PhD3,9; Olof Stephansson, MD, PhD4,10

JAMA. 2024

Question  Does exposure to mRNA COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy increase the risk of adverse events in newborn infants?

Findings  In this population-based cohort study from Sweden and Norway that included 94 303 infants exposed to COVID-19 vaccination during pregnancy and 102 167 control infants born between June 2021 and January 2023, vaccination during pregnancy was associated with lower odds of neonatal intracranial hemorrhage, cerebral ischemia and hypoxic-ischemic encephalopathy, and neonatal mortality.

Meaning  In this large population-based study, vaccination of pregnant individuals with mRNA COVID-19 vaccines was not associated with increased risks of neonatal adverse events in their infants.
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Well, in addition to the concept that the vax presents a risk to pregnant women low enough to be equivalent to zero, being unvaccinated presents a huge risk to pregnant women and their fetuses.

Pregnancy changes the mother's immune system. It has to in order to prevent it from attacking the 'foreign object' in the womb.
That leaves the mother more vulnerable to a severe case of Covid.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-and-covid-19-what-pregnant-women-need-to-know

And the effects of severe cases of Covid on pregnant women have been shown to sometimes be catastrophic.

There are anecdotal reports of severe blood clotting resulting in multiple limb amputation, internal organ failure (kidneys & heart were near the top of the list), and, of course, permanent and severe lung damage. 
Fetal deaths were quite common.

https://newsroom.uw.edu/news-releases/pregnant-women-covid-19-face-high-mortality-rate

11 hours ago, tkhayes said:

try again, go ahead and tell me about Hillary's emails while you try and change the definition of a vaccine with zero medical authority backing you up.

Why would you think I care about Hillary's emails? Where did that come up? 

17 hours ago, billvon said:

But she has a BOOK so she's an expert!  Right?

If it's new, not as likely.

The Lindy effect (also known as Lindy's law[1]) is a theorized phenomenon by which the future life expectancy of some non-perishable things, like a technology or an idea, is proportional to their current age. Thus, the Lindy effect proposes the longer a period something has survived to exist or be used in the present, the longer its remaining life expectancy.

10 hours ago, wolfriverjoe said:

And the effects of severe cases of Covid on pregnant women have been shown to sometimes be catastrophic.

There are anecdotal reports of severe blood clotting resulting in multiple limb amputation, internal organ failure (kidneys & heart were near the top of the list), and, of course, permanent and severe lung damage. 
Fetal deaths were quite common.

What you are describing is related to pregnancy increasing metabolic disorders, which we've known Covid can exacerbate.

In my story those studies did not exist, however it was known there was some metabolic risk with covid. In my instance my wife was in good metabolic health.  We had detailed labs.  The doctor did not think to put that together coupled with us working remotely.  When questioned she could not provide answers or details for why she was recommending it.

It's probably true, based on the evidence above, that metabolically unhealthy pregnant women get the Covid vaccine.  

On 11/11/2024 at 4:16 PM, billvon said:

The ZOE COVID study reported waning of effectiveness of mRNA (Pfizer-BioNTech BNT162b2 and Moderna mRNA 1273) and vector-based (Oxford-AstraZaneca COVID-19) vaccines at around 5 months after administration of two primary doses in community settings7. The protection provided by Pfizer vaccine was 91.6% after one month, decreasing to 82% after 5 months; effectiveness of Moderna reduced from 94% to 84% and that of AstraZeneca vaccine declined from 83% to 75.7% at 5 months. "

\https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-61922-6

Again, use that education you have and stop getting all your information from right wing agenda-driven podcasters.

Later in the paper it covers reinfection odds:

The odds of protection from (re)infection with SARS-CoV-2 following primary vaccination was higher in mRNA and viral vector-based vaccine groups compared to inactivated vaccine in the first 5 months, however, the likelihood of protection persisted in the viral vector-based vaccine group for a longer period, i.e. up to 9 months.

Irrespective of the vaccine type, the augmented S- antibody titers at enrollment i.e. at 2–4 weeks after the 2nd dose of COVID-19 vaccines, were reduced by about 50% at 4 months follow-up and continued to decline afterwards in individuals who remained uninfected with SARS-CoV-2. 

On 11/11/2024 at 2:04 PM, billvon said:

This coming from the people who think vaccines don't work, that climate change is a Chinese hoax, that windmill cancer is a thing, that women can "shut down" a pregnancy if they are raped, and that Haitian immigrants are eating people's pets in Springfield.

I prefer actual reality, even if alternative facts conform more closely to conservative agendas.

I remember an FBI official testifiying before congress about how his bosses had decided to fundamentally change the way hate crimes were reported to artificially boost the numbers.  This claim about hate toward women is likely similar.  AWFL women ought to try spreading around less hate, as it certainly generates replies, which of course must be counted as hate...

I live in Springfield, Ohio.  

How would you know whether pets have been eaten?  Gullibility level is off the charts to be to take the word of the local officials that have every incentive to not admit it. You might still believe Jussie Smollet was the victim of a hate crime.

https://babylonbee.com/news/ladies-please-check-the-mail-as-your-handmaids-tale-outfit-should-be-arriving-today