kaiser 19 #51 February 2, 2023 On 9/22/2018 at 1:52 PM, Ron said: And yet I just gave an example of a GM DZ that had an issue with illegal MX in the past resulting in a crash and recent action against the DZO and now a fatality at that DZ in part due to MX and they are still a GM. These are all facts. GM DZ having a crash due to illegal MX - Still a GM Action taken against the DZO - Still a GM An additional crash, with fatalities, reported to be bad MX - Still a GM DZ. Now maybe the USPA has not acted yet.... But they didn’t take action from the last crash due to bad MX, so I have little faith they will take action now... The check cleared. Maybe the USPA will finally act.... So maybe a preventable fatality is the line that removes a DZ from the program? That would be nice to know.... ‘Dangerous activities are allowed until someone dies.’ At that point it isn’t more than just the check clearing and an empty promise. Anyone that thinks the DZ being a USPA GM means anything is fooling themselves. The GM program is there to force individual membership and to serve as an advertisement tool. Funny how Chuck has made that’s EXACT claim on this forum before. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Curiosity; is an aircraft oil change considered maintenance? If so, why do DZO’s not being aircraft mechanics do their oil change unsupervised ? Especially having zero experience what so ever with aircraft’s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,822 #52 March 15, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 5:30 PM, kaiser said: Curiosity; is an aircraft oil change considered maintenance? If so, why do DZO’s not being aircraft mechanics do their oil change unsupervised ? Especially having zero experience what so ever with aircraft’s. The FARs allow the owner of the aircraft to do oil changes on part 91 aircraft, as long as he is also a pilot. So if the DZO was a pilot who actually owned the aircraft him/herself, then it would be legal. (It also has to be done according to manufacturer's instructions of course.) From FAR 43.3: Except for holders of a sport pilot certificate, the holder of a pilot certificate issued under part 61 may perform preventive maintenance on any aircraft owned or operated by that pilot which is not used under part 121, 129, or 135 of this chapter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gowlerk 2,145 #53 March 15, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 7:30 PM, kaiser said: Curiosity; is an aircraft oil change considered maintenance? If so, why do DZO’s not being aircraft mechanics do their oil change unsupervised ? Especially having zero experience what so ever with aircraft’s. Not in my country. DZs are considered commercial and must hold an Air Operation Certificate. Which is a large part of why jump tickets are more expensive here than in the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaiser 19 #54 March 15, 2023 The DZO in this case does not hold a pilots license nor any other qualification. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites